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Dr. Kurt Donsbach was probably the first to introduce the "oral chelation" concept. His original formula was honest, even if very weak. Those who got paid-for diplomas from his "school" have, unfortunately, not been able to even copy his honest formula, but instead deliberately cheapen it so that their profit margins are enormous, while the product has no resemblance to the original from Dr. Donsbach. It is a sad sign of our times that there are more criminals making and selling vitamins than there are selling drugs.
Click here to see a list of their ingredients, compared with Life Glow Plus.
Advantage Health Matters: The first page is apparently from the actual manufacturer of this fraud, and nowhere on its web pages did it show the actual ingredients of the formula. On January 3, 2001, I sent an eMail request to this company to get a list of ingredients. I'll publish that information here when and if I receive it.
In the meantime, I entered "RTRE" as a search term and found another web site offering this same formula, and their web pages is listed also below.
I got a reply from my two queries about ingredients, and one reply was as follows:
Dear Karl:
I have received your inquiry regarding oral chelation; we no longer carry such products; however, you could contact R-Garden directly at www.rgarden.com and look up their oral chelation products. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. JR
Unfortunately I couldn't tell WHICH of my queries this was an answer to -- so, you guess! I've written back, asking JR what's up?? He answered, and identified himself as "Advantage Health."
He said:
Dear Oral Chelation Inquiry:
We are jzeifman@aol.com which is Advantage Health Matters. We do not carry the products anymore since they did not sell well and also because we have other products such as whole food-form vitamins which are preferred by both us and our customers. If you would like a complete catalogue as well as a lot of brochures on each item, send me your mailing address/name and I'll put it in the mail for you. JR
The web address he gave me, www.rgarden.com is real, and is different from either of the other two I had found for this product. On that web site there were many different vitamin products, but no oral chelation products. Strange! Actually, not strange. Fraudulent products seldom last on the market for very long -- then web pages which still show the product as for sale are either out of date, or they just don't want to admit they sell the stuff when it sounds like an investigation!
Holistic Health And Nutrition: This source for the fraudulent product also does not list the ingredients. I also sent them a request for the ingredient list. This company responded, but send ONLY a list of ingredients with no quantities. I have asked them for the quantities. We'll see if they respond. They did respond with ingredients, basically the same as I had obtained from one of their former customers. Their response is below. The message from them -- click here.
Some Notes on David W. Rowland: Here is a very critical comment about the founder of Creative Nutrition. I must add that the source of this criticism is, itself, one of the most harmful sources of information on the web, so I do not place much credence in it, but the facts presented "might" be correct.. At least they can be used to follow up and look for more information.
eMail Message From Someone: J wrote to me to describe some symptoms from taking oral chelation. They are below, at the click. I then responded to her eMail. She sent me the list of ingredients shown below in a comparison with Life Glow Plus.
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David W. Rowland, "Ph.D., R.N.C" is one of Canada's leading promoters of nutrition nonsense.. He gives lectures and appears often on radio and television shows and at alternative health fairs and supplement trade shows. Rowland is a frequent and outspoken critic of mainstream medicine. His writings and speeches advocate "freedom of choice" and decreased government regulation of the health marketplace. His entrepreneurial activities have included practicing as a "nutrition consultant," writing articles and booklets, publishing a magazine, operating a correspondence school, and issuing "credentials" for "nutrition consultants." He has also been involved in formulating and marketing dietary supplement products. The biographical sketch in his recent booklets states:
For the first 30 years of his life, David suffered from repeated bouts of respiratory infections, gastrointestinal disturbances, and malaise. His ill health was really a blessing in disguise that set him on a course of learning natural methods of healing. In the process of curing himself, David discovered his deep love for helping others.
David's personal path to full health led him to undertake extensive training in nutrition,m eventually leading to a PhD degrees in this field. All that he has learned through studying, practice, and teaching he readily shares with his readers -- in a clear, direct writing style.
Rowland's "Ph.D. degree" was obtained from Donsbach University, a nonaccredited correspondence school operated by Kurt Donsbach, a chiropractor who has engaged in so many health schemes that nobody -- including himself -- can document all of them with certainty [1]. Among other things, he has: (a) violated state and federal laws against marketing products with unsubstantiated claims; (b) been convicted of practicing medicine without a license by prescribing vitamin products for the treatment of serious disease; (c) operated nonaccredited "nutrition" schools, one of which he used to award himself a "PhD degree"; (d) marketed a computerized "nutrient deficiency test" that was programmed to recommend supplement products for everyone.
During the mid-1980s, Rowland also acquired a Doctor of Nutritional Medicine (N.M.D.) "degree" from the John F. Kennedy College of Nutrimedical Arts & Sciences (American Nutrimedical University), a bogus "school" that was part of the paper conglomeration of the American Nutrimedical Association (ANMA). Rowland has said that the credential was "an honorary one awarded me by a professional association . . . for my contribution to the field." However, ANMA documents I collected during the mid-1980s make it clear that the primary requirement was payment of a fee. ANMA's 1986 directory lists Rowland as a "regional director" of ANMA.
Curiously, Rowland seldom mentions his two reputable credentials: a Bachelor of Arts degree and a Master of Business Administration from the University of Toronto.
Like Donsbach, Rowland has developed training programs, credentials, and political support for "nutritional consultants" who advocate dubious practices. In 1983, he founded the Nutritional Consultants Organization of Canada (NCOC), a nonprofit association claimed to "help inform the public about nutritional consulting and to provide standards of practice for Nutritional Consultants." Rowland has stated that he served as "elected president" from 1983 to 1988 and as one of ten directors after that. In 1991, NCOC's seven-person "advisory board" included: Linus Pauling, Ph.D.; Abram Hoffer, M.D., Ph.D. (a proponent of megavitamin therapy for schizophrenia); Morton Walker, D.P.M. (a nonpracticing podiatrist who writes about questionable health methods); Lendon Smith, M.D. (who surrendered his medical license rather than face charges of insurance fraud); Maureen Salaman (president of the National Health Federation); and Jeffrey Bland, Ph.D. (who subsequently was charged with false advertising by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission). All six had the letters "R.N.C." after their name on NCOC's letterhead, even though I have never seen these initials displayed by any of them.
In 1983, Rowland also launched the Canadian Nutrition Institute, a nonaccredited correspondence school whose principal course was a "certificate program in holistic nutrition." The application form noted that credit might be given for equivalent studies or related work experience such as owning or operating a health food store or selling supplements. The brochure stated that the course, which could take from six months to two years or longer to complete, would "enable a self-motivated person to acquire knowledge beyond that presently available in traditional approaches to nutritional training." The textbooks listed in the brochure included: Superhealth by Kurt Donsbach; Psycho-Nutrition by Carlton Fredericks (convicted of practicing medicine without a license); Nutrition from Tots to Teens by Emory Thurston, Ph.D. (convicted of offering laetrile to treat cancer); and the Vitamin Bible by Earl Mindell, whose Ph.D. was from the nonaccredited University of Beverly Hills. Canadian Government education officials have stated that the Canadian Nutrition Institute was not a recognized degree-granting body and had no standing whatever in Canada's academic community [2].
The institute's brochure also stated that successful completion of the course was "one of the ways of meeting the professional requirements for the professional designation Registered Nutritional Consultant," which allows the recipient to "legally use" the letters "R.N.C." The credential is obtained from NCOC. In 1991, the R.N.C. designation was said to be "registered" or "certified" by the Canadian Council of Professional Certification. However, like Rowland's school, this council had no academic standing. Government records indicate it was incorporated in 1975 for the purpose of giving certification to unrecognized professions [3].
Rowland also founded and is educational director of the Edison Institute of Nutrition, a nonaccredited correspondence school that operates in Canada, the United States, and European countries. The school's offerings include a "practitioner program" that meets the educational requirement for "R.N.C." status and bachelor and master's degree programs in "applied science in nutrition."
In 1983, Roland founded Creative Nutrition Canada Corp., which imported and distributed nutritional supplement products. He has also been a senior partner in Nutripower, a California company that manufactured and distributed supplements. I don't know if he has a current financial interest in any supplement products.
Rowland's biographical sketch on Amazon Books states that he has written 20 books. Amazon sells eight items by Rowland, but all are self-published booklets and some are expanded versions of previously published booklets. The 1987 and 1991 editions of Books in Print list no titles under Rowland's name, which makes me think that all of his "books" were booklets. The eight that Amazon markets are:
Rowland began publishing a quarterly newsletter for R.N.C.s (Nutrition News) in 1983 and published a bimonthly magazine (Health Naturally) from 1992 through 1999. The magazine's purpose was said to be "to inform you about your health choices." [5] It contained many articles that gave unsubstantiated advice and many ads for dubious products and services.
Several "nutritional consultants" offer advice based on Rowland's "Nutri-Body" questionnaire, which can be ordered online for $55 (Canadian). The questionnaire contains about 600 questions about diet, nutritional supplement use, and "possible symptoms that can relate to nutritional imbalances" in 55 different areas. It states that the higher the score for each section, "the more likely it is that nutritional imbalance may be related to the bodily signs indicated." Rowland's "Listen to Your Body" booklet claims that a score of 40 to 60 indicates that score of 40 to 60 is "almost certainly" due to nutrition imbalance of the factor involved," a score of 20 to 40 is "probably due to nutritional imbalance of the factor involved," and zero to 20 "will only possibly be due to the nutritional factor in that section." [6]
Questionnaires covering symptoms, illnesses, health habits, and other lifestyle factors can be a valuable part of a comprehensive medical evaluation. However, most of Rowland's test questions ask about symptoms that have nothing to do with dietary or nutrition adequacy. Rowland advises readers to "consult a Registered Nutritional Consultant or other qualified practitioner who can help you work out a specific program based on what you have discovered by yourself." [6] You can bet your life than any pracitioner who uses the questionnaire as a basis for giving advice will recommend supplements inappropriately.
The "R.N.C." credential does have one valuable aspect. It can tell you who to avoid.
This article was revised on June 6, 2000.
-----Original
Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 6:29 PM
To: karl@karlloren.com
Subject: Bad Side Effects
Dear Karl
I have been reading and reading and reading your website. It is truly
amazing!!!
My husband started an oral chelation program ten weeks ago. He has been
faithful, with diet, coffee, soft drinks, alcohol, etc.
Since week two he has been experiencing extreme gout. It started in his
right big toe, then encompassed his entire right foot. He did go to the
doctor to get a note for time off from work. He has not taken any
chemicals
as per the doctor's order.
Within weeks the gout moved from the right foot to the left big toe, which
in turn encompassed the entire left foot. For four days he experienced
great pain with gout in both feet. It eventually left the right foot,
but
stayed in the left foot.
With just a breathe of relief in sight, he awaken three mornings ago to find
he now has his left elbow completely enflamed with gout. The pain is
extending as far up as the shoulder and as low as the fingers.
Now this goes without saying both feet are still very tender, he is let's
say, not the most "sure footed" at this point of chelation.
My husband is overweight, has a 46 inch waist,has a mouth full of mercury
filings with the exception of his four upper and lower teeth, the rest are
all metal, only the root and pieces of the original teeth actually remain,
has high blood pressure, has irregular heart beat, which the professional
played with for over a two years, until we finally said, "we had enough
and
we will take our chances." Of course he has high cholesterol and
high lipid
production, which he has been on medication for years.
With our own research, we decided all medication would come to a halt and we
would try chelation. Only now, in week ten, we may have come to the end
of
this road also. I see his pain, but I'm not in his body, and his body
hurts!!!!
I had not read of these bad side effects on you site, I guess they are not
side effects, but actually healing crises.
We have both agreed that the mercury has to go, even if it means false teet,
and colonics are despartely needed in his case, we really don't want to
stop at this point, but . . .
Would you have any advise for us. The pain may be too much for him to bear
much longer.
Gout (hyperuricemia or elevated uric acid) is a
systematic disorder that affects the big toe joint. Gout is the end result
of a build-up of uric acid in the blood. The uric acid crystallizes and
settles in the joints in the body, most often in the big-toe joint. When it
does so, it produces an excruciating pain. The onset of an attack of gout
can be sudden and vicious. It is not uncommon for the victim to be awakened
by this excruciating pain in the middle of the night. (Gout is often
confused with Osteoarthritis, a condition that is characterized by a much
slower onset of pain, and seems worse after a person has been walking or
running.)
Gout is generally thought to be a hereditary disease, but there are many causes: increased purine intake (*see diet), sudden weight loss due to dieting, and/or diuretics can cause elevated uric acid and mimic the symptoms of gout. In rare cases, leukemia's and/or blood dyscrasias can cause elevated uric acid. Gout can be a serious disease and needs medical intervention, generally by an Internist.
If gout is not treated properly, it will eventually cause permanent changes in the big-toe joint. It is important to seek medical attention if you suspect the existence of gout. It is encouraging to note that drugs can be prescribed that will control the uric-acid level in the blood. You need not suffer from gout in this day and age.
Dear Karl
Thank you for your quick and detailed response. No we are not using your product, we are using a product "vitamost R.T.R.E., from Creative Nutrition Canada Corp, or CNC" Please if you have any information on this company, please let us know.
Thank you so very much
Dear Karl,
Here is the list of ingredients for this product:
[Karl Note: I've put the ingredients into a table, with comparisons with Life Glow Plus]
| Ingredient | RTRE
Vitamost Product For 10 tablets per day, the recommended dose |
Life Glow
Plus For 20 Capsules |
| Vitamin A (palmitate) | 22,000 IU | 15,000 IU |
| Beta-Carotene (pro-vitamin A) | 3,300 IU | 25,000 IU |
| Vitamin D | 800 IU | |
| Vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol succinate) |
600 IU | 705 IU |
| Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) | 4,400mg | 3,000 mg |
| Vitamin B-1 (thiamine) | 66 mg | 200 mg |
| Vitamin B-2 (riboflavin | 55 mg | 100 mg |
| Niacin | 44 mg | 100 mg |
| Niacinamide | 22 mg | 80 mg |
| Pantothenic
Acid (calcium Pantothenate) |
550 mg | 350 mg |
| Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine hydrochloride) | 110 mg | 170 mg |
| Vitamin B-12 (cobalamin) | 550 mg | 165 mcg |
| Folic Acid | 2.2 mg | 400 mcg |
| Biotin | 122 mg | 1,000 mg |
| Lipotropic Factors | ||
| Choline (bitartrate | 440 mg | 1,000 mg |
| Inositol | 55 mg | 100 mg |
| DL-Methionine | 550 mg | 0 (can be dangerous) |
| DL Cysteine | 0 | 300 mg |
| N Acetyl Cysteine | 880* | 300 mg |
| Magnesium Disodium EDTA | 0 | 500 mg |
| Malic Acid | 0 | 50 mg |
| Alpha Lipoic Acid | 0 | 5 mg |
| Ornithine | 0 | 150 mg |
| Arginine | 0 | 300 mg |
| L-Phenylalanine | 0 | 200 mg |
| Methyl Sulfonyl Methane | 0 | 100 mg |
| L-Lysine | 0 | 1,000 mg |
| Glycine | 0 | 300 mg |
| Para Amino Benzoic Acid (PABA) | 0 | 500 mg |
| Minerals | ||
| Trace Minerals | 0 | 500 mg |
| Calcium (carbonate) | 444 mg | 475 mg (not carbonate) |
| Magnesium (oxide) | 555 mg | 500 mg |
| Potassium (clhroide) | 444 mg | 99 mg |
| Zinc (gluconate) | 33 mg | 50 mg |
| Silicon (dioxide) | 22 mg | 0 (this is sand) |
| Manganese (gluconate) | 22 mg | 5 mg |
| Phosphorus | 0 | 108 mg |
| Iodine (potassium iodide) | 0.88 mg | 125 mcg |
| Chromium (hvp Chelate) | 333 mcg | 200 mcg |
| Selenium (hvp Chelate) | 330 mcg | 250 mcg |
| Cooper | 0 | 1 mg |
| OPC (from Grape Seed Extract | 0 | 50 mg |
| Boron (citrate) | 0 | 3 mg |
| Betaine HCl | 0 | 50 mg |
| Pancreatin 4X | 0 | 50 mg |
| Adrenal Substance | 0 | 50 mg |
| Thymus Substance | 0 | 100 mg |
| Pituitary Substance | 0 | 10 mg |
| Buchu Leaf | 0 | 50 mg |
| Couchgrass | 0 | 50 mg |
| Garlic Powder (organic high Allicin) | 0 | 200 mg |
| Juniper Berries | 0 | 10 mg |
| Homeopathic Crataegus (Hawthorne Berry) 6X | 0 | 100 mg |
Lemon Bioflavonoids (44 mg), Betaine Hydrochloride (22 mg), L- cysteine hydrochloride (88mg), Adrenal Substance (5.5 mg), Thymus Substance (5.5 mg), Spleen Substance (5.5 mg)
*By a personal message from the company on January 17, 2001, I was told that each tablet contains 88 mg of L Cysteine, thus the 10 tablets per day would contain 880 mg, as shown above. When a person goes to the maintenance level of 3 tablets per day, the cysteine would drop to 264 mg, which, as the only chelating substance would be inadequate.
Karl, the daily recommended allowance suggested 10 pills a day for Chelation, then a regular maintenance program of 3 pills a day
Dear XXX,
Karl Loren
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Loren [mailto:karl@karlloren.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:23 PM
To: nutrition@1holistichealth.com
Subject: Ingredients Please
Would you please send the ingredient list for your oral chelation product.Thanks,Karl
Dear Karl,
Vitamin A (Palmitate) - 2200IUBeta-Carotene (Pro Vitamin A) - 330 IUVitamins E - d-alpha tocopherol ,60IUVitamin C- 440 mgB1- 6.6 mgB2 - 5.5 mgB6,- 11 mgB12 - 55 mcgNiacin,- 4.4 mgNiacinamide, - 2.2 mgPantothenic Acid,- 55 mg
Folic Acid, - 0.22 mg
Biotin - 12.2 mgCholine - 44 mgInositol - 5.5 mgDL Methionine - 55 mgCalcium - 44.4 mgMagnesium - 55.5 mgPotassium - 44.4 mgZinc - 3.3 mgSilicon - 2.2 mgManganese - 2.2 mgIodine - 0.088 mgChromium - 33.3 mcgSelenium - 33 mcglemon bioflavonoids (44 mg) , betaine hydrochloride (22 mg) , L-cysteine hydrochloride (88 mg) , adrenal substance (5.5 mg) , thymus substance (5.6 mg) and speen substance - (5.5 mg) .With your order of RTRE we will send you a copy of Dr. David Rowlands book - Bypassing the BypassI hope this answers you question adequately. Should you need further information please do not hesitate in emailing me again.God BlessLeslie Laycox
Dear Leslie,
The only remaining question is about the "L-cysteine hydrochloride) shown in the lower area as 88 mg. Is this for ONE capsule, meaning that someone who takes 10 capsules would get 880 mg of L-Cysteine??
Karl
I got the answer back that each tablet contains the 88 mg of L Cysteine.
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